
	Weekly chat #38: Wednesday 15th November 2000
	
Participating: Peter Kretschmar, Carol Anne Oxborrow, Niels Joergen Westergaard
	Stefan Larsson
	
Subjects discussed: Integration problem/to-do tracking tool
		New Error codes in jemx.h
		Common parameter names
		Energy binning channel labels
		CVS ADD repository

Action Items:
AI38.1	PK	15/12/00 Borrow ISDC software problem tracking tool for SDAST
OPEN			integration problems and to-dos.

AI38.2	ALL	25/11/00 Take a look at the list of common parameter names
OPEN			and comment on any inconsistencies/problems that might
			be discovered. The list is at:
			http://www.dsri.dk/~oxborrow/sdast/param_names.html
			
AI38.3	CAO	31/11/00 Write little introductory piece of ADD about the 
OPEN			binning tables for the different data taking modes.

AI38.4 CAO	22/11/00 Circulate email about how to use ADD CVS repository
OPEN			WHEN it's up and running.


**** Logging Started : Wed Nov 15 09:26:24 MET 2000
> Hi Peter, how's the weather in Switzerland: it's grey and rainy here, but very
> mild. None of the family in England's actually flooded, but my parents'
> telephone was out for a few day dues to water in the cables, which was the
> first time I'd heard of that problem. END
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<peter> Hi Carol Anne. It's less rainy today than the previous days, but still quite grey. Temperatures normal for the season - above zero, but cool. END
> Hi NJW! END
<njw> Good morning END
> Sami woun't be joining us, and I presume Allan won't either since he's a)
> in the states b) not head of SDAST any longer. So that just leaves Stefan -
> anyone want to place any bets on that one? END
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<larsson> Morning! END
> Great stuff Stefan - we're all here on time - so let's get started!
> First a tool for integration revisions tracking. Do you still feel we need
> such a thing Peter, since we've got a long way without it? END
<peter> I'd still prefer to have one.
<peter> But I agree that we have gone quite far without it yet.
> What do suggest, and html frontend and a CGI script? END
<peter> May main worry is that some of the points are forgotten and resurface later. END
> Isn't the history contained in each executable header good enough? END
<peter> It's sometimes a bit short and I do not necessarily notice if a point that has been raised has been actually tyackled. END
> So it's the problems that you find that don't get cleared up that worry
> you - I can see that's a problem too. What do you suggest?And when would it
<peter> Regarding the interface, I have thought about 'borrowing' ISDC's Software Problem Report mechanism, once it has been updated. END
> have to be ready? END
<njw> Does the revision tracking also include to-do s  ? END
> That sounds a very effort-effective solution Peter. END
<njw> As long as it is easy to work with END
> Presumably ISDC has ironed out the bugs a little already. eND
<peter> The current system is easy enough to use but has some quirks. An improved version has been promised real-soon-now. END
> Okay so we wait for the update of the ISDC tool. Any other comments.
> Can we put an AI on Peter to `borrow' that tool for us when the update
> becomes available? END
> Due mid December? END
<peter> OK with me. I'd use it to log problems and to-do's. END
> That sounds good. END
> Next on agenda: error codes in the latest jemx.h. Any comments? END
<peter> Works well for me. END
<njw> Looks fine, actually easier than earlier END
<larsson> OK. END
> That's good to hear. Any more changes in the architecture I can just change
> the numbers and the way things are listed in header. END
> Next: updated common parameter names: any comments? If you don't know
> what I'm talking about take a look at
> http://www.dsri.dk/~oxborrow/sdast/param_names.html
> END
<peter> Just looking at it now. Should I try to give some immediate comments or rather write an email later? END
> If this is your first look, write an email later. As some ofyou may notice
<peter> It'
> some of our webpages have been updated by me to be more user-friendly now
<peter> It's my first look after the renovation. END
> that we have so much stuff on them. I've also added nice pastel colours
> my daughter can be proud of. END
> If there are no immediate comments about the common parameter names, I'll
> just put an AI on all of us to take a look and comment on any problems
> we find, and press on to the next agenda topic: binning tables: do channel
> labels (PI, PHA) start at 0 or 1. Could Peter and NJW please give a summary
> of where we stand on this one, on a mode-by-mode basis? END
<njw> FULL: channels 1-255, 0 is reserved
<njw> REST: channels 0-7
<njw> SPEC: channels 0-63
<peter> SPEC: 0-64 following Srens mail, right?
<peter> Sorry, 0-63 naturally. END
<njw> SPTI: channels 1-255, 0 is reserved
<njw> 255 is upper limit since unsigned char is used for storage; no more is needed
<njw> considering the detector resolution END
<njw> Yes, REST and SPEC come from bit truncation END
> Okay, I'll put this in the updated ADD, perhaps in a little section in the
> introduction. AI on me. END
> Next on the agenda: the CVS repository. Our syst admin. just finished doing
> the server installation yesterday, and I'll be working setting up the actual
> directory and files. When that's finished I'll circulate an email to let
> you know how to use it all. Any questions? END
<njw> Not now END
> Bet there will be later........! END
<njw> Y
<peter> No questions, I'm used somewhat to CVS. END
> I'm not - so it's going to be abit of an adventure END
> Let's take a look through the AI list - just the overdue, or due this
> week items. END
> AI13.17 NJW	11/00 	Ensure that the calibration document will contain 
OPEN			descriptions of data-formats, products etc. which will 
			be in telemetry format to be provided to ISDC

> Well, how's it going NJW, need an extension? END
<njw> Nothing new there. END
<njw> it says November, so let's see END
> But you'll get time to work on it before the end of the month? END
> When's this calibration document being written? END
<njw> I'd like to get startet on it at least END
> That sounds good. Next:
> AI16.5	PK/SM	10/00	Go through j_performance specifications and see how
OPEN			well they fit into OSM

> PK need an extension on this one - it's getting pretty old now. END
> PK do you need an extension, and if so till when? END
<peter> Yes we need an extension - by definition.
<peter> I have sent Sami a mail with some comments of mine but no reply yet. END
> Okay, I'll put end of November and send an email to Sami with a list of
> his outstanding AIs. END
> Next is on me:
> AI16.7 AH,CAO	10/00	Check availability of JEMX slew data  for position
OPEN			corrections
> I'll need an extension on this, but try to do it at the end of this week -
> after CVS is working. END
> You again Peter:
> AI16.8	PK	10/00	To sketch I/O and template support for j_ical
OPEN
<peter> Answered by my email from ...
<peter> Nov 7. END
> Okay, have you got a copy of that email you could send again?  END
> Sorry Peter, I've checked, I don't have copy, and I don't remember it at
<peter> Sure. I'll send it out in a few minutes. END
> all - nothing strange in that ! END
> So that AI's closed. Next:
> Hurray!! No more outstanding or due-this-week AIs (atleast not for those
<peter> OK, the mail has been sent. END
> of us who are present). So that just leaves AOB.
> Thanks Peter - it's duely noted.
> WHat about our next chat. Who can make it when next week? END
<larsson> Not on Tuesday for me. Wednesday I will be with Peter at ISDC. END
<peter> Wednesday and Thursday morning would work for me. END
<larsson> Thursday morning is also OK for me. END
<njw> I have an action for today: The event coordinates in -COR DS's should be
> Wednesday and Thursday are great for me. END
<njw> in mm, and this should be calculated in j_cor_position.
> Sorry NJW - I forgot that is is already the 15th -time flies END
<njw> j_ima_shadowgram expects mm here. END
> Okay, so that's a change I'll have to incorporate into J_cor_position. 
> I'll talk to you about it later. AI closed END
<njw> And the origin should be the detector center. END
<njw> I have no preference tuesday, wednesday or thursday END
> Okay, let's make it Thursday since I thought there was someone, Perhaps
> Allan or Sami who couldn't make it two Wednesdays in a row. Next meeting
> Thursday 9.30 Copenhagen time 23/11/00. All agreed? END
<njw> Y
<peter> OK
<larsson> Y. END
> Great! Any more AOB? END
<njw> N
<larsson> N
<peter> N
<njw> Have a good time, then. Good bye END
<peter> Good bye. END
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> Good be all END
