
	Weekly chat #22: Friday 10th September 1999

Participating: Allan Hornstrup, Niels Joergen Westergaard, Carol Anne Oxborrow
	Juhani Huovelin, Eero Esko, Peter Kretschmar

Subjects discussed: Agenda for SDAST meeting 22/23rd Sept 1999, Helsinki
		Deadline for contributions to ADD5.0
		Deadline for contributions to DDD1.0

Action Items: None.

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H oxborrow@    #jemxadr 0 Carol Anne Oxborrow          ~oxborrow@tenma.dsri.dk
315 apollo.dsri.dk * End of /WHO list.      
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<huovelin:#jemxadr> Hi there, did you begin already ? END
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<allan:#jemxadr> We haven't started yet, wait a second ... END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Hi everybody! Can we keep this short today? I have a poster to
+ finsih before 11:00. END
<allan:#jemxadr> We expect about 10-15 minutes OK? END
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#jemxadr> Great to have you all here: let's get started END
#jemxadr> First: the meeting agenda. Any complaints comments, additions? END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Nothin I can currently think of. END
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#jemxadr> Hi Eero! Do yu have any comments on the meeting agenda I've suggested
+? END
#jemxadr> Most importantly, is there anything I've forgotten? END
<eesko:#jemxadr> No and no, I can't think of anything END
#jemxadr> would everyone who has no comments please indicate their agreement in
+stead of just being silent?
#jemxadr> Sometimes I just can't tell if you're all in silent agreement, or jus
+t
#jemxadr> got locked in the mens' room. END
<eesko:#jemxadr> Ok END
<allan:#jemxadr> OK END
<njw:#jemxadr> OK END
#jemxadr> Point 2: who's actually started on their ADD contributions which are
#jemxadr> due next week? END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Ahem, not me, I fear. END
<huovelin:#jemxadr> I just came back from getting a nice cup of coffee. No comp
+laints END
#jemxadr> I'm glad to hear you didn't get locked in the coffee room, Juhani END
<njw:#jemxadr> I havn't either END
#jemxadr> Looking at the agenda, and the scheduling of the meeting, I'm wonderi
+ng if it wouldn't be better for us to all deliver ADD and DDD contributions AF
+TER the meeting
#jemxadr> when we've all heard what the other's have to say about their ISSW an
+d their input/output data structures.
#jemxadr> Because we've all got to get these things to match up, and the best w
+ay
#jemxadr> to do that is to hear each other describe what's been written so far.
<Peter:#jemxadr> A very reasonable proposal - and not only because I'm late ;-)
+ END
#jemxadr> Otherwise I'm going to be spending a lot of time sending emails to ea
+ch of you telling you how this and that data structure doesn't match what's pr
+oduced by something further up stream. 
#jemxadr> What do the rest of you think of this suggestion? END
<allan:#jemxadr> Fine with me :-) END
<eesko:#jemxadr> Sounds good. END
#jemxadr> I think our component-by-component discussion should perhaps focus on
#jemxadr> producing a coherent and thoroughly self-consistent ADD. END
#jemxadr> Which in turn should lead to coherent and self-consistent ISSW.END
<njw:#jemxadr> Fine END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Nice ideal, I'll be content if we achieve 95%. END
<allan:#jemxadr> I was just going to suggest that we rose for 'the wave'
#jemxadr> So we'll say that ADD contributions in as near perfect condition as h
+umanly possible should be due say on 
<allan:#jemxadr> But, I think CAO is right, we can get it more coherent that wa
+y. END
#jemxadr> Friday 1st October or Weds 6th Oct. What say you Chaps? END
<allan:#jemxadr> We have an ISDC meeting to fight with too, so the 6th is bette
+r. END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Wednesday, we also have the Consortium Meeting to interfere wi
+th our work at end of September. END
#jemxadr> I agree, Allan, my calender's packed, with my daughters birthday righ
+t in the middle. END
#jemxadr> `interfere'? `fight with'? Do I detect a certain reluctance to attend
+ this consortium meeting ;-) END
#jemxadr> Okay, the date on the AI to produce ADD contributions is changed to W
+eds 6th October - with the proviso that each of us work
#jemxadr> really hard to make this as perfect as possible. END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Yes Ma'm! END
<huovelin:#jemxadr> OK, we'll do our best (I hope) END
#jemxadr> Great stuff, Peter! How does this affect the DDD contributions? END
#jemxadr> Looking at the filofax, it seems like Friday 15th should still be man
+ageable. END
<Peter:#jemxadr> OK. END
#jemxadr> Are agreed then that we keep the DDD deadline on Friday 15th October?
+ END
<huovelin:#jemxadr> OK. Again, I 'll say we try ... END
#jemxadr> So that just leaves AOB. AOB anyone? END
<Peter:#jemxadr> Not me END
H njw          #jemxadr 0 Niels Joergen Westergaard         ~njw@heao1.dsri.dk
H eesko        #jemxadr 0 *real name unknown*   ~eesko@aurus.astro.helsinki.fi
H Peter        #jemxadr 0 KRETSCHMAR Peter         ~pkretsch@isdcul10.unige.ch
H huovelin     #jemxadr 0 *real name unknown*   ~huovelin@us.astro.helsinki.fi
H allan        #jemxadr 0 Allan Hornstrup               ~allan@130.226.216.175
H oxborrow@    #jemxadr 0 Carol Anne Oxborrow          ~oxborrow@tenma.dsri.dk
315 apollo.dsri.dk * End of /WHO list.      
<huovelin:#jemxadr> Just that I already reserved a cabinet in a nearby governme
+nt restaurant, to get us a cheap lunch on 23 sept 12 o'clock noon END
#jemxadr> Just one quick questions for the Helsinki chaps: why is is when I do 
+the `who' command the words *real name unknown* always
<allan:#jemxadr> Sounds good END
#jemxadr> appears by your names? It always makes me feel like I'm dealing with
<Peter:#jemxadr> Good idea, Juhani END
<huovelin:#jemxadr> It means that we have secret names END
#jemxadr> escaped convicts or something. END
<allan:#jemxadr> The IRC are probably made by an american group, not
<allan:#jemxadr> recognizing finnish names - strange, that my
<allan:#jemxadr> name comes through :-) END
<huovelin:#jemxadr> I really think that there is something trivial, which I don
+t bother to find out about END
#jemxadr> Well, that just about wraps things up for today. Have a good weekend 
+all of you....lets pray for sunshine END
<allan:#jemxadr> Have a nice weekend!  END
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<huovelin:#jemxadr> Bye bye END
<Peter:#jemxadr> See you soon. Next week I'll be in the U.S. END
<huovelin:#jemxadr> STOP CAO ! Maybe Sami has something to announce ! END
<smaisala:#jemxadr> Nothing important. Sorry I forgot the chat. But I can aske 
+everything from Peter BYE. END
#jemxadr> Sami, do you want to say something? END
#jemxadr> Good by everyone - have a good weekened. END
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