
	Weekly Chat #25: Friday December 10th 1999
	
Participants: Stefan Larsson, Allan Hornstrup, Carol Anne Oxborrow, 
	Niels Joergen Westergaard, Sami Maisala, Eero Esko, Juhani Huovelin

Subjects discussed:	AI list
			tkirc and zircon

No new AI's

**** Logging Started : Fri Dec 10 09:35:53 MET 1999
> NJW is coming in a moment, can we start with your AIs, Stefan? END
> AI12a.13 SL	3/12/99 Make a technical note on background data storage.
<larsson> OK
> I think this one's all finished? Right? END
<larsson> This is part of NJ note so I did not make a separate one. END
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<njw> Hi, sorry for delay END
> We're going through SL's AIs, since he was the first one to log onEND
> I'll close that one anyway since the work has been done. END
> AI12a.18 NJW, PK, SL
OPEN		Beg. Dec'99 Update ADD sections 2.5.2, 2.5.3 and 2.5.4
		of ADD (background handling descriptions in various components)
> I think this one's still open because I don't remember getting
<larsson> I have to look this up. sorry for the delay. END
> updated ADD/background intro sections from every one. END
<larsson> OK. I just mailed that to Juhani. END
<njw> I'm working on it END
> Could you mail it to me too? END
> Let's put a new due date on AI12a.18 to be more inline with our
<larsson> OK CA. END
> revised ADD schedule. How about end January for background
> ADD/intro updates? END
<njw> It could be sooner but no objections END
> Now let's start from the top of the AI list - I've just emailed
> to Helsinki to see if any of them will be joining us, but I don't
> wamt to wait for them. END
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> Great to `see' you finnish chaps ! Let's get started with the AI
<smaisala> Hi there 
> list. I won't bother with the ones with due dates in 2000 END
> AI12a.7 NJW	End Nov'99 Find out if there is a change in the number of
OPEN		bits in the JEMX TIME timing format
> How's this one going NJW? END
<njw> Oops that one slipped, I'll find Soeren and check END
> Can I change the due to ASAP? END
<njw> Y
> AI12a.11 NJW	End Nov'99 Find out when system calibration test is taking place
OPEN
> What about this one NJW? END
<njw> That one is done: around August 2000 END
> Good ! I'll put that one in the close file. END
> Next is for JH, perhaps Sami can answer for him:
> AI12a.17 JH	Mid Dec'99 Update ADD description of background data handling -
OPEN		sections 2.5 and 2.5.1 of ADD
> I think this can be given a new due data `End Jan'2000' to
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> fall into line with the new due date on AIAI12a.18, which
> was just the same action but on PK, NJW and SL END
<huovelin> Hello ! Iam currently updating the test for ADD 5 (2.5 + 2.5.1 +
> Hi Juhani! what do you say we put updates on ADD/background intro
<huovelin> checking of 2.5.2-4 END
> back til end Jan 2000? END
<huovelin> test = text END
> This falls better into line with the general ADD schedule END
<huovelin> I havent checked if I now have the contributions from SL and NJW END
> Well, let's assume that it can be done by the end of January, ok? END
<huovelin> I intended to do it by the original date (15.12.1999( END
<njw> Juhani, you don't have my contribution yet - but soon END
> If you guys can get these background introduction sections ready
> before Christmas I'd be very grateful - then we can concerntrate
<huovelin> So, we probably dont need to relax the schedule for that END
> more on data structures and interfaces in 2000 when we need
> to get the complete ADD together. 
> If you can get it done next week that'd be great. I think we
> have all the basic information about the background handling 
> itself now. END
> So AI12a.17 and AI12a.18 still are due `mid-Dec'99' END
> Any comments or can we move onto the next AI? END
<njw> Y
<larsson> Y
> Okay, gentlement - I'll be waiting for your intput next week! END
> gentlement = gentlemen
> Next:
> AI12a.19 NJW	Beg.Dec'99 Update technical note on background handling
OPEN
> This is closed since the new technical note was put on the
<njw> That one is done, although there are some corrections to make END
> developer's forum last week. END
> Any comments? END
> AI991112_2	CAO	End Nov 1999	Set up a repository for test data from
jemx instrument, sorted into ISDC data structures by JDataUnpack.
OPEN
> This one's also closed, though currently the structure only has two
> science windows, each with complete full imaging, and partial
> restricted imaging - the repositorry will get fuller and more
> complete within the next two weeks. END
> Next:
> 
AI991119_1	CAO	ASAP	Talk to IT about getting test telemetry
packages sent to ISDC
OPEN
> There are now LOTS of telemetry packages available to everyone,
> including ISDC at: 
> /t/jemx/dsri/testdata/dpedata (I think). I will make a link
> to this directory from the developer's forum and then you
> can all download the telemetry packets as you please.
> Any comments? END
<larsson> Not yet. END
> There should also be a link to the science window repository,
> so I'll set one up if it isn't already there. END
> Next:
> AI991119_2	SM/EE 	ASAP	Distribute tkirc to SDAST so that it can be
tested by the whole team in December
OPEN
> This is done, isn't it Sami? END
<smaisala> Yes
<smaisala> Have you all tested that ?? END
> Yes, Allan put it on our system, and he and Guilio tested it
<larsson> Not me (yet). END
> and it didn't work too well. Now we're usingZIRCON and it
> is much more user friendly. Any comments? Have you tried zircon
> NJW? END
<eesko> Yes we did, but the interface was pretty complicated
<allan> NJ has tested zircon END
> I prefer zircon, but clearly each institute/user can use whatever
<njw> zircon seems to be an improvement over 'irc' but not drastic END
> suits them best, since they all seem to be overlays of IRC. END
<allan> One funny advantage is that you can have private discussions going on at the same time
<allan> as you run with the general one :-) END
<allan> And you can set topic:
*** allan has set the topic: "discussing zircon"
*** allan has set the topic: discussing zircon
* allan Gone for coffee
<eesko> Heh END
<allan> and set away-messages... END
<eesko> allan: and use tab to complete names
<eesko> END
> I think any remaining problems are inherent in the technology:
> you still can't see if everyone you think you're chatting to is
> there. The speed thing means that we still write interleaved
> repliess. We just have to live with these things. Also we can
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> send drawing with zircon - I haven't tried this yet END
> Any more comments? END
<eesko> N
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<njw> Just changed to zircon END
> Okay, next AI:
> AI991119_4	ALL	3/12/99 Prepare lists of I and O data structures needed 
for each component in time for data structures chat on Friday 3rd dec.
OPEN
> I think this is closed since the meeting itself is over END
> Any comments? END
<njw> N
> AI991119_5	PK	3/12/99 Prepare summary of ISDC policy on the naming
of image data structures, from SPI data structure proposals.
OPEN
> I think we've all received several emails on this topic, and
> some more AI's were created during this last meeting for futher
> questions about data structure names, so this one can be
> considered closed. END
> Last of all:
> 
AI991208_1	ALL 	Ongoing Send CAO complete component status summary
at the end of each month.
OPEN
> I'm going to move this one to the `ongoing' file - please 
> remember to send me a complete V2 component status every month.
> Hey, I just got a drawing: is this deliberate???? It looks 
> good from here. END
> Whose sending this? END
<eesko> Sami got it too, but I only get text like:*	Unknown CTCP ZIRCON from allan to #jemxadr: : DRAW #jemxad
<larsson> Not from here though Allan
* allan I did a test, which included more thant anticipated END
<larsson> <allan:#jemxadr> _ZIRCON DRAW #jemxadr create line 76.0 166.0 161.0 120.0 -fill green_
> Can we add to it some way ? END
<njw> I just drew a black line END
<njw> and a black rectangle END
<larsson> I suggest you make this test off line. END
<larsson> Lets finnish our meeting, please. END
> I agree we should play with this later, but did anyone see
> my yellow additions? END
> That's the end of the AI list: thank you for your help everyone
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> Sorry, NJW, there are no more AIs!! END
<njw> GOOD ! END
> I'll circulate the current AI list and the `ongoing' list -
> PLEASE take a look at both. END
> Any more comments? END
<njw> N
<larsson> No.END
<smaisala> No END
<eesko> N
<allan> n end
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<larsson> Bye, bye END
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<smaisala> Bye Bye END
> Remember, next week's chat is dedicated to calibration
<eesko> Bye
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> See you all there! Have a good weekend!!!
<njw> Same to you, bye END
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